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Order N3 10_Noun Demonstrative Numeral

Definition
The value of the property Noun Demonstrative Numeral is "yes" when this order can be used in a neutral context.

Definition of Demonstrative

The following context is a good context to set this property (Wang and McCready 2005):

What do you think about …………………….. ?

Another good context is to put the Noun Demonstrative Numeral in a phrase functioning either as a subject or an object of a clause:

Context: There are exactly three children playing in the street. Someone tells you:

……………………………… are my students

I know ……………………………. well.

General Note on Word Order Properties:
A "yes" value for the property Noun Demonstrative Numeral does not exclude a "yes" value for other orders of these categories.

NA: for this property means that the language has no Numerals or no Demonstratives that can combine with nouns.

-- Please add a glossed example for any ‘yes’ value.
-- If Noun Demonstrative Numeral can be used in any other type of context, please add an example with a comment, or send an email to the property authors. (In some languages for example, demonstratives can be used as specific indefinites (English: there is this movie you should see ‘ there is a particular movie you should see’) )

Examples:
1. English is ‘no’ for this property:

*I know students two these well

2. Yes examples: to be added from the database.
Contributed by: Cristina Guardiano and Hilda Koopman
Language Value Contributor Comments
   =Hoan No Chris Collins
   Acehnese No Julie Legate
   Afrikaans No Theresa Biberauer
+ Agni indénié Yes Amoikon Dyhié ASSANVO
  Words: mlà kà mɔ́ blú
  Gloss: femmes ce…ci Déf+PL Num (10)
  Translation: Dix de ces dix femmes ci.
  Contributor: Amoikon Dyhié ASSANVO
  Words: mlà sɔ́mɔ́ blú
  Gloss: femme ces…là Num (10)
  Translation: Dix de ces dix femmes là
  Comment: Ce type de constructions n’est possible que dans un contexte de défini. On a donc comme morphème de défini [mɔ́].
  Contributor: Amoikon Dyhié ASSANVO
   Albanian No Dalina Kallulli
   Amharic No Girma Demeke
   Ancient Greek No Richard Faure
   Arabic, Gulf No Dimitrios Ntelitheos
   Armenian (Eastern) No Sona Haroutyunian
+ Bafut Yes Pius Tamanji
  Words: ndâ yíì yímfùrɨ̀
  Gloss: house that one
  Translation: That one / lone / single house
  Contributor: Pius Tamanji
   Bandial Yes Wolfgang Berndt
   Bardi No Claire Bowern
   Basaa No Paul Roger Bassong
   Beng No Denis Paperno
   Bengali No Priyanka Biswas OK with indexical interpretation. For example, apel(apple) ei(this) tin-Te(three-CLF) dao(give-IMP) 'Give (me) these three apples'.
+ Bole Yes Alhaji Gimba
  Words: dande maina bolou aji durshe
  Gloss: children those two PROG jumping
  Translation: Those seven children are jumping
  Comment: Although this order is permissible, it is not as standard as Noun-Num+Dem order.
  Contributor: Alhaji Gimba
   Brazilian Portuguese No Ananda Lima
   Burmese No Timothy Ho
   Calabrian (Northern) No Giuseppina Silvestri
   Cantonese (Guangzhou) No Zixian Qiu
   Catalan No Victoria Mateu
   Chichewa Yes Sam Mchombo
   Chickasaw No Pam Munro
   Chol No Jessica Coon
   Cypriot Greek No Marios Andreou
   Czech No Pavel Caha
+ Dagaare Yes Adams Bodomo
  Words: a gama amE ata
  Gloss: def bok.PL DEM.PL three
  Translation: These books, three of them
  Contributor: Adams Bodomo
   Danish No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Dholuo No Hilda Koopman
+ Dida Lakota (diéko) Yes Gohon Fabienne Stéphanie Attéby
  Words: wɛ̰́nɛ̰́ lj́a̍ sɔ́
  Gloss: woman.PL DEM two
  Translation: these two women
  Contributor: Gohon Fabienne Stéphanie Attéby
+ Digo Yes Steve Nicolle
  Words: asichana hinya a-iri
  Gloss: CL2.girls CL2.DEM CL2-two
  Translation: these two girls
  Contributor: Steve Nicolle
   Digor Ossetic No David Erschler
   Dutch No Hilda Koopman
   Eastern Armenian No Karine Megerdoomian
   English No Hilda Koopman
   English (Singapore) No Adam Chong
   Faroese No Hjalmar Páll Petersen
   Finnish No Anders Holmberg
   French No Hilda Koopman
   Frisian (West Frisian) No Jarich Hoekstra
   Ga No Mary Esther Kropp Dakubu
   galician No Naír García
   Garifuna No Pam Munro
   georgian No Lea Nash
   German No Viola Schmitt
   Greek Yes Arhonto Terzi
   Greek (Calabria) No Cristina Guardiano
   Greek (Cappadocian) No Petros Karatsareas
   Greek (Homer) NA Cristina Guardiano
   Greek (Medieval) No Io Manolessou
   Greek (Pontic) No Cristina Guardiano and Dimitris Michelioudakis
   Guébie No Hannah Sande
   Gungbe (Porto-Novo) No Enoch Oladé Aboh
   Gurene Yes Samuel Atintono
   Haitian No Michel DeGraff
   Hakka No Iris Wu
   Hausa No Michael A. Estrada
   Hebrew No Ur Shlonsky
+ Hebrew (Biblical) Yes Massimo Gargiulo
  Words: hayeladim ha'elle 'arbatam (Dan 1,17)
  Gloss: the children.ART+NOUN these.ART+DEM four.NUM+POSS. SUFF.
  Translation: these four children
  Contributor: Massimo Gargiulo
   Hindi No Gurprit Bains
+ Hixkaryana NA Laura Kalin
  Comment: There are demonstrative pronouns in Hixkaryana (Derbyshire 1985:p. 7) but no demonstratives that co-occur with a noun (p. 26).
  Contributor: Laura Kalin
   Hungarian No Anna Szabolcsi
   Ibibio No Willie Willie
   Icelandic No Jim Wood
   Igbo No Mary Amaechi
   Iha No Mark Donohue
   imbabura quichua No UCLA Linguistics 210
   Indonesian No Mark Donohue
   Iron Ossetic No David Erschler
+ Italian No Cristina Guardiano
  Words: * bambini questi tre sono miei studenti
  Gloss: children these three are my students
  Contributor: Cristina Guardiano
   Italian (Napoletano Antico) No Adam Ledgeway
   Italian (Reggiano) No Giovanni Roversi
   Jamaican Creole English No Stephanie Durrleman
   Japanese No Hilda Koopman
   K'iche' No Pam Munro
   Khasi No Gracious Temsen
   KiLega No Kasangati Kinyalolo
   Kinande No Patricia Schneider-Zioga and Philip Mutaka
   Kiyaka No Lukowa Kidima This depends on how to classify (AGR-eeno) ' in question, previously mentioned'. If this is a demonstrative, this property would be 'yes'. However, since there seems to be no way to use a demonstrative with "tell me about these two paintings/children" with a deictic demonstrative, it seems these cannot combine with numeral N. This is what motivated the 'no' value.
+ Kom Yes Richard Kwamong
  Words: Ifwo weyn Ì-kfaè
  Gloss: things these four
  Translation: These four things
  Contributor: Richard Kwamong
   Korean No Hyo Shin
   Kuot No Eva Lindström
   Kurdish (Sorani) No Yadgar Karimi
   Kusunda No Mark Donohue
   Laal No Florian Lionnet
   Lao No Alif Silpachai
   Latin (Late) No Chiara Gianollo Not found in my sample. More extensive corpus research would be needed to safely assess this point.
+ Lebanese Arabic No Lina Choueiri
  Words: *l-wleed haydole xamse
  Gloss: The-children this.pl five
  Translation: *these five children. OK.the children are five
  Contributor: Hilda Koopman
  Words: l-wleed haydole l-xamse
  Gloss: the-children this.pl/that.pl the.five
  Translation: the-children this.pl the-five
  Comment: (this is ok as a DP, where l-xamse is interpreted as an appositive) (ex to be tranferred to LC)
  Contributor: Hilda Koopman
   Lithuanian No Felix Thies
   Maasai (Kisongo) No Hilda Koopman
   Mada Yes Bebey Théodore
   Malagasy No Hilda Koopman
   Malayalam No Mythili Menon
   Mandarin No Mark Donohue
+ Marshallese Yes Heather Willson Sturman
  Words: Abnono kein ruo re-kar drelon jen ippen attorney eo.
  Gloss: complaint these two 3pl-pst submit from with attorney the.sg
  Translation: These two complaints were submitted by the attorney.
  Contributor: Heather Willson Sturman
   Medumba Yes KEUPDJIO HERMANN SIDOINE
   Middle Dutch No Gertjan Postma
   Miya No Michael A. Estrada
   Moroccan Arabic No Arwa Rangwala
+ Muyang Yes Bebey Théodore
  Words: awák ndeni zlamani
  Gloss: goats this five.ni
  Translation: These five goats
  Contributor: Bebey Théodore
   Nahuatl (Central Huasteca) No John Garcia
   Nahuatl (Classical) No John Garcia
   Nawdm No Hannah Kim
   Neapolitan No Giuseppe Samo
   Nepali No Mark Donohue
   Northern Thai No Alif Silpachai
   Norwegian No Marit Julien
   Nupe No Jason Kandybowicz
   Nweh Yes Hilda Koopman
   Okinawan No Ken Hiraiwa
   Old English No Willem Koopman
   Old French No Heather Burnett
   Old Saxon No George Walkden
   One No Mark Donohue
   panjabi No Gurprit Bains
   Papuan Malay No Mark Donohue
   Pashto No David Pate
   Pima No Marcus Smith
   Polish No Barbara Tomaszewicz
   Portuguese No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Q'anjob'al No Kathleen O'Flynn
   Romanian Yes Monica Alexandrina Irimia 'copiii aceştia trei' (Ndef Dem Num)
   Russian No Denis Paperno
   Samoan Yes Hilda Koopman
   Sandawe Yes Helen Eaton
   Sasak No Nur Ahmadi and Eli Asikin-Garmager
   Scottish Gaelic No David Adger
   Shan No Alif Silpachai
+ Shupamem Yes Abdoulaye Laziz Nchare
  Words: Pon p-i pi-kpa
  Gloss: children pi-these pi-four
  Translation: These four children (definite)
  Contributor: Hilda Koopman
+ Sicilian No Cristina Guardiano
  Words: * màkini sti tri
  Gloss: cars these three
  Translation: these three cars
  Contributor: Cristina Guardiano
   Skou No Mark Donohue
   Spanish No Michael A. Estrada
   Swedish No fredrik heinat
   Swiss German No Cecile Meier
   Tagalog No Edith Aldridge
   Taiwanese Southern Min No Arthur Wang
+ Teramano No Iara Mantenuto
  Words: *bambulə ʃti tre
  Gloss: dolls these three
  Translation: these three dolls
  Contributor: Iara Mantenuto
   Thai No Peter Jenks
   Tiwa No Virginia Dawson
+ Tommo-So Yes Laura McPherson
  Words: TàgàL nɔ̀=mbé ǹnɔ́-go ɛ̀sú-go=wɔ-ɛ̀ⁿ
  Gloss: Shoe this=PL 5-ADV pretty-ADV=be-3PL
  Translation: ‘Five of these shoes are pretty.’ ‘These five shoes are pretty’ (203: 334b).
  Comment: “While some consultants say that both orders mean the same thing, others report that putting the numeral after determiners gives a partitive meaning” (203). From A Grammar of Tommo So by Laura Mcpherson (2012).
  Contributor: Hannah Kim
   Tukang Besi No Mark Donohue
+ Tuki (Tukombo) Yes Edmond Biloa
  Words:  vadzu vana baane
  Gloss: 2.children 2.these two
  Translation: These children
  Comment: Yes or no is tricky: this feels more like these children which are two. However since this order is fine, we tentatively code it as yes.
  Contributor: Edmond Biloa
   Tupi (Ancient) No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Turkish No Murat Kural
   Tuvan No Mark Donohue
   Twi No Cansada Martin
   Ukrainian No Roksolana Mykhaylyk
   Vietnamese No Binh Ngo
   Vlaški-Žejanski-Istro-Romanian No Zvjezdana Vrzic
   West Flemish No Liliane Haegeman
   Western Armenian No Hrayr Khanjian
   Wolane No Hannah Kim
   Wolof No Mariame Sy
   Wuhu Chinese No Zhuo Chen
   Xhosa No Xiujie Ma
   Yémba Yes Elsie Mawamba
+ Yoruba Yes Johnson Folorunso Ilori [not neutral: will change to no after migration)
  Words: Àga yìí/yẹn mẹ́wàá ti tó
  Gloss: Chair this/that ten perf be-enough
  Translation: 'Ten of this/that chair are enough.'
  Comment: This is not a neutral context anyway but the expression is well formed and commonly used in the language.
  Contributor: Johnson Folorunso Ilori
   Zamboageño Chabacano No Grace Gaspardo