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N2 07_Definite NP (Num N, N Num) lacks a definite article or demonstrative

Definition
General Note: How do definite and indefinite noun numeral combinations differ in form? This is the third of seven...
To set these, use the examples for the specific contexts in N2 01 through N2 04. Check as many "yes" values as applicable. If in doubt, just leave the property value(s) unset, and contact us via email.


This property is set to "yes" if there is no definite article or demonstrative in the definite contexts given in N2 03 and N2 04.

Examples.
1.
English is "no" for this property: the determiner is obligatory contexts that calls for a definite noun phrase:

*Tell me about four letters

2.
Gungbe (Porto Novo) is "yes" for this property, as the definite article/specificity marker lɔ́ can be absent in such contexts (as indicated by the parentheses). Note that there is no demonstrative either in the following example:

Wémà ɛ̀nɛ̀ lɛ́ ( lɔ́ ) kò wá
letter four PL (Det) already come
'The four letters already arrived.'
(example from Enoch Aboh)

Gungbe is also "yes" for N2 05, as the definite article/specificity marker can be present.

Comment: This property will be quite difficult to set in the following situation: a language prefers using a demonstrative in the three definite contexts given in N2 03_ N2 04_ and does not have a clear definite determiner. The problem is to determine if the Num N or N Num N can also be given a definite interpretation, keeping the distribution otherwise identical.
For a 'yes' value, please give an example using the contexts; for a 'no' value, please give an excluded example in the particular contexts. Add a comment ("judgment unclear, need further work, not completely sure") if the judgment is not clear.
Contributed by: Hilda Koopman
Language Value Contributor Comments
   =Hoan No Chris Collins
   Afrikaans No Theresa Biberauer
   Agni indénié No Amoikon Dyhié ASSANVO
   Akan-twi No AUGUSTINA OWUSU
   Albanian Yes Dalina Kallulli
   American Sign Language Yes Natasha Abner
   Amharic No Girma Demeke
   Ancient Greek No Richard Faure
+ Arabic, Gulf No Dimitrios Ntelitheos
  Words: * al-awlaad th-thalatha eshtra-w keteb
  Gloss: DET-boy.PL DET-three buy.PST-3MPL book.PL
  Translation: the three boys bought books
  Contributor: Shaikha Saeed
   Armenian (Eastern) No Sona Haroutyunian
   Babanki Yes Pius Akumbu
   Bafut No Pius Tamanji
   Bambara Yes Hilda Koopman
   Bandial No Wolfgang Berndt
   Bardi No Claire Bowern
   Basaa Yes Paul Roger Bassong
   Bengali Yes Priyanka Biswas
   Bole No Alhaji Gimba
   Brazilian Portuguese No Ananda Lima
   Bulgarian No Roumyana Pancheva
   Burmese Yes Timothy Ho
   Calabrian (Northern) No Giuseppina Silvestri
+ Cantonese (Guangzhou) No Zixian Qiu
  Words: sei fung seon camyat dou-zo
  Gloss: four CLF letter yesterday arrive-PFV
  Translation: Four letters arrived yesterday.
  Comment: Num N cannot be given a definite interpretation without a demonstrative (as in N2_06.
  Contributor: Zixian Qiu
   Catalan No Victoria Mateu
   Chickasaw Yes Pam Munro
+ Cypriot Greek No Marios Andreou
  Words: *Pe mu gia tessera grammata.
  Gloss: tell me about four letters
  Translation: Tell me about (those) four letters.
  Contributor: Marios Andreou
   Czech No Pavel Caha
   Dagaare No Adams Bodomo
   Danish No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Dholuo No Hilda Koopman
   Dida Lakota (diéko) No Gohon Fabienne Stéphanie Attéby
   Digo No Steve Nicolle
   Digor Ossetic Yes David Erschler
   Dutch No Hilda Koopman
   Eastern Armenian Yes Karine Megerdoomian
   English No Katie Redderson-Lear
   English (Singapore) Yes Adam Chong
   Faroese No Hjalmar Páll Petersen
   Finnish Yes Anders Holmberg
   French No Vincent Homer
   Frisian (West Frisian) No Jarich Hoekstra
   Ga No Mary Esther Kropp Dakubu
   galician No Naír García
   Garifuna Yes Pam Munro
   georgian Yes Lea Nash
   German No Viola Schmitt
   Greek No Arhonto Terzi
   Greek (Calabria) No Cristina Guardiano
   Greek (Cappadocian) No Petros Karatsareas
   Greek (Homer) Yes Cristina Guardiano
   Greek (Medieval) No Io Manolessou
   Greek (Pontic) No Cristina Guardiano and Dimitris Michelioudakis
   Guébie Yes Hannah Sande
+ Gungbe (Porto-Novo) Yes Enoch Oladé Aboh
  Words: ùn zO àsíbá xlán àxìmɛ́
  Gloss: 1sg order Asiba Prep market
  Translation: I sent Asiba to the market
  Comment: This is an additional example, in which there is no numeral (and hence no (obligatory definite) plural either. In this context “market” is definite. It is important that such definites need not be locatives or in complement positions. Bare nouns can be interpreted as (in)definite in all argument positions..
  Contributor: Enoch Oladé Aboh
   Haitian No Michel DeGraff
   Hakka No Iris Wu
   Hausa No Michael A. Estrada
   Hebrew No Ur Shlonsky
   Hebrew (Biblical) No Massimo Gargiulo
   Hixkaryana Yes Laura Kalin
   Hungarian No Anna Szabolcsi
   Ibibio No Willie Willie
   Icelandic No Jim Wood
   Igbo Yes Mary Amaechi
   Iha Yes Mark Donohue
   imbabura quichua No UCLA Linguistics 210
   Indonesian No Mark Donohue
   Iron Ossetic Yes David Erschler
   Italian No Cristina Guardiano
   Italian (Napoletano Antico) No Adam Ledgeway
   Italian (Reggiano) No Giovanni Roversi
   Japanese Yes Ken Hiraiwa A demonstrative is only optional.
   K'iche' No Pam Munro
   KiLega No Kasangati Kinyalolo
   Kinande No Patricia Schneider-Zioga and Philip Mutaka
   Kiyaka Yes Lukowa Kidima
   Kom No Richard Kwamong
   Korean No Grace Lee
   Kuot No Eva Lindström
   Kurdish (Sorani) No Yadgar Karimi
   Kusaal No Hasiyatu Abubakari
   Kusunda No Mark Donohue
   Laal NA Florian Lionnet
   Latin No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Latin (Late) Yes Chiara Gianollo
   Malagasy No Hilda Koopman
   Malayalam Yes Mythili Menon
   Mandarin No Arthur Wang
   Miya No Michael A. Estrada
   Moroccan Arabic No Arwa Rangwala
   Muyang No Bebey Théodore
   Nahuatl (Central Huasteca) Yes John Garcia
   Nahuatl (Classical) No John Garcia
   Neapolitan No Giuseppe Samo
   Nepali No Mark Donohue
   Norwegian No Marit Julien
+ Nupe Yes Jason Kandybowicz
  Words: ekungunci-zi guta-ta a tsu
  Gloss: warrior-PL three-RED PRF die
  Translation: 'All (the) three warriors have died.'
  Contributor: Jason Kandybowicz
   Okinawan Yes Ken Hiraiwa A demonstrative is only optional.
   Old English No Willem Koopman
   Old French No Heather Burnett
   Old Saxon No George Walkden
   Oluwanga No Dimitrios Ntelitheos
   Oluwanga (Eji) No Ceciliane Odangah
   One Yes Mark Donohue
   panjabi NA Gurprit Bains
   Papuan Malay No Mark Donohue
+ Polish No Barbara Tomaszewicz
  Words: A co z *(tymi) dwiema paczkami?
  Gloss: and what with those.ins two.ins packages.ins.pl
  Comment: Cannot skip the demonstrative in the in the context where Aba sent us four letters last week and two packages.
  Contributor: Barbara Tomaszewicz
   Portuguese No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Romanian No Monica Alexandrina Irimia
   Russian No Denis Paperno
   San Dionisio Ocotepec Zapotec Yes George Aaron Broadwell
   Sandawe No Helen Eaton
   Sasak No Nur Ahmadi and Eli Asikin-Garmager
   Scottish Gaelic No David Adger
   Shupamem Yes Abdoulaye Laziz Nchare
+ Sicilian No Cristina Guardiano
  Words: * mi ligghìi tri llìbbra
  Gloss: to.me I.read three books
  Translation: I read three books
  Comment: Indefinite only
  Contributor: Cristina Guardiano
   Skou No Mark Donohue
   Spanish No Victoria Mateu
+ Swedish No fredrik heinat
  Words: *Berätta mer om två aporna/*berätta mer om de två apor.
  Gloss: tell more about two monkey.PL.DEF/tell more about DET two monkeys
  Translation: Tell me/us more about the two monkeys.
  Comment: Both determiner and suffix are obligatory. For more on double definiteness, see "extra examples".
  Contributor: fredrik heinat
   Swiss German No Cecile Meier
   Tagalog Yes Edith Aldridge If an NP is the absolutive of its clause, it will typically bave a definite or generic interpretation. The definite interpretation does not depend on the presence of a demonstrative.
   Taiwanese Southern Min No Arthur Wang
+ Teramano Yes Iara Mantenuto
  Words: so maɲatə tre pizzə
  Gloss: I.am eaten three pizzas
  Translation: I ate three pizzas
  Contributor: Iara Mantenuto
  Words: tre pizzə arrivitə
  Gloss: three pizzas arrived
  Translation: three pizzas arrived
  Contributor: Iara Mantenuto
   Thai No Alif Silpachai
+ Tigre Yes Zhenyu Sun
  Words: kaləb wa-dəmmu
  Gloss: dog and-cat
  Translation: ‘dog and cat’
  Contributor: Zhenyu Sun
   Tommo-So No Laura McPherson
   Triqui, Copala Yes George Aaron Broadwell
   Tukang Besi Yes Mark Donohue
   Tuki (Tukombo) Yes Edmond Biloa
   Tupi (Ancient) Yes Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Turkish No Murat Kural
   Tuvan No Mark Donohue
   Twi No Cansada Martin
   Ukrainian Yes Roksolana Mykhaylyk
   Vietnamese Yes Binh Ngo
   West Flemish No Liliane Haegeman
   Western Armenian Yes Hrayr Khanjian
   Wolof No Mariame Sy
   Wuhu Chinese No Zhuo Chen
   Xhosa Yes Xiujie Ma
   Yémba Yes Elsie Mawamba
   Yawa No Mark Donohue
   Yoruba No Johnson Folorunso Ilori
   Zamboageño Chabacano No Grace Gaspardo