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N2 08_Definite NP (Num N, N Num) contains a Plural marker, but Indefinite NP does not

Definition
General Note: How do definite and indefinite noun numeral combinations differ in form? This is the fourth of seven...
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This property is set to "yes" if the definite NP (Num N, N Num) contains a Plural marker, but the indefinite (Num N, N Num) does not.

Examples.

1. English is “no” for this property, as the definite and indefinite noun phrases are not distinguished in this respect:

There are three posters on the wall
The three posters are funny

2.
Bambara is “yes” for this property, as there the plural u/w only occurs in definite noun phrases.
misi fila bè ne fè
cow two is I with
I have two cows

misi fila w
cows two PL
the two cows

3.
Gungbe is “yes". The plural lɛ́ must appear in the definite noun context, but cannot appear in indefinites:

a. Definite:
Wémà ɛ̀nɛ̀ lɛ́ ( lɔ́ ) kò wá
letter four PL (Det) already come
'The four letters have already arrived.'

b.Indefinite:
Kpɔ́n! vì àwè tò àlìò jí
look child two LOC road on
'Look! There are two children on the road.'
(Example provided by Enoch Aboh.)

Contributed by: Hilda Koopman
Language Value Contributor Comments
   =Hoan No Chris Collins
   Acehnese No Julie Legate
   Afrikaans No Theresa Biberauer
   Akan-twi No AUGUSTINA OWUSU
   Albanian No Dalina Kallulli
   American Sign Language No Natasha Abner
   Amharic Yes Girma Demeke
   Ancient Greek No Richard Faure
+ Arabic, Gulf No Dimitrios Ntelitheos
  Words: henak thala defater 3la t-tawlah
  Gloss: there three notebooks on DET-table
  Translation: there are three notebooks on the table
  Contributor: Shaikha Saeed
  Words: th-thala defater heg Ahmed
  Gloss: DET-three notebooks for Ahmed
  Translation: the three notebooks are Ahmed's
  Contributor: Shaikha Saeed
   Armenian (Eastern) Yes Sona Haroutyunian
   Babanki No Pius Akumbu
   Bafut No Pius Tamanji
   Bambara Yes Hilda Koopman
   Bandial No Wolfgang Berndt
   Bardi NA Claire Bowern
   Basaa No Paul Roger Bassong
   Bole No Alhaji Gimba
   Brazilian Portuguese No Ananda Lima
   Bulgarian No Roumyana Pancheva
   Burmese No Timothy Ho
   Calabrian (Northern) No Giuseppina Silvestri
   Cantonese (Guangzhou) No Zixian Qiu
   Catalan No Victoria Mateu
   Chickasaw No Pam Munro
   Cypriot Greek No Marios Andreou
   Czech No Pavel Caha
   Dagaare No Adams Bodomo
   Danish No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Dholuo No Hilda Koopman
   Dida Lakota (diéko) No Gohon Fabienne Stéphanie Attéby
   Digo No Steve Nicolle
   Digor Ossetic No David Erschler
   Dutch No Hilda Koopman
   Eastern Armenian Yes Karine Megerdoomian
   English No Katie Redderson-Lear
   English (Singapore) Yes Adam Chong
   Faroese No Hjalmar Páll Petersen
   Finnish No Anders Holmberg
   French No Vincent Homer
   Frisian (West Frisian) No Jarich Hoekstra
   Ga No Mary Esther Kropp Dakubu
   galician No Naír García
   Garifuna No Pam Munro
   georgian No Lea Nash
   German No Viola Schmitt
   Gothic No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Greek No Arhonto Terzi
   Greek (Calabria) No Cristina Guardiano
   Greek (Cappadocian) No Petros Karatsareas
   Greek (Homer) No Cristina Guardiano
   Greek (Medieval) No Io Manolessou
   Greek (Pontic) No Cristina Guardiano and Dimitris Michelioudakis
   Guébie No Hannah Sande
   Gungbe (Porto-Novo) Yes Enoch Oladé Aboh
   Haitian Yes Michel DeGraff
   Hakka No Iris Wu
   Hausa Yes Michael A. Estrada
   Hebrew No Ur Shlonsky possible in archaisms, e.g., the biblical flood lasted 'forty day and forty night.
+ Hebrew (Biblical) No Massimo Gargiulo
  Comment: After the numerals from 11 to 19 the singular is used with nouns as "man", "day", "year". This also happens after hundred and thousand. This use however doesen't depend on the presence of definite article or demonstrative
  Contributor: Massimo Gargiulo
   Hindi No Gurprit Bains
   Hungarian No Anna Szabolcsi
   Ibibio No Willie Willie
   Icelandic No Jim Wood
   Igbo No Mary Amaechi
   Iha No Mark Donohue
   imbabura quichua No UCLA Linguistics 210
   Indonesian No Mark Donohue
   Iron Ossetic No David Erschler
   Italian No Cristina Guardiano
   Italian (Napoletano Antico) No Adam Ledgeway
   Italian (Reggiano) No Giovanni Roversi
   Japanese No Ken Hiraiwa
   K'iche' No Pam Munro
   KiLega No Kasangati Kinyalolo
   Kinande No Patricia Schneider-Zioga and Philip Mutaka
   Kiyaka No Lukowa Kidima
   Kom No Richard Kwamong
   Korean No Grace Lee
   Kuot No Eva Lindström
   Kurdish (Sorani) No Yadgar Karimi
   Kusunda No Mark Donohue
   Laal No Florian Lionnet
   Lango No Arwa Rangwala
   Latin No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Latin (Late) No Chiara Gianollo
   Maasai (Kisongo) No Hilda Koopman
   Mada No Bebey Théodore
   Malagasy No Hilda Koopman
   Malayalam No Mythili Menon
+ Mandarin No Arthur Wang
  Comment: Plural marker ‘men’ (animate) cannot occur with numerals regardless of definiteness.
  Contributor: Zixian Qiu
   Moroccan Arabic No Arwa Rangwala
   Muyang No Bebey Théodore
   Nahuatl (Central Huasteca) No John Garcia
   Nahuatl (Classical) No John Garcia
   Neapolitan No Giuseppe Samo
   Nepali No Mark Donohue
   Norwegian No Marit Julien
   Nupe No Jason Kandybowicz
   Nweh No Hilda Koopman
   Okinawan No Ken Hiraiwa
   Old English No Willem Koopman
   Old French No Heather Burnett
   Old Norse No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Old Saxon No George Walkden
   Oluwanga No Dimitrios Ntelitheos
   Oluwanga (Eji) No Ceciliane Odangah
   One No Mark Donohue
   panjabi NA Gurprit Bains
   Papuan Malay No Mark Donohue
   Pashto No David Pate
   Pima No Marcus Smith
   Polish No Barbara Tomaszewicz
   Portuguese No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Romanian No Monica Alexandrina Irimia
   Russian No Denis Paperno
   Samoan No Hilda Koopman
   San Dionisio Ocotepec Zapotec No George Aaron Broadwell
   Sandawe No Helen Eaton
   Sasak No Nur Ahmadi and Eli Asikin-Garmager
   Scottish Gaelic No David Adger
   Shupamem No Abdoulaye Laziz Nchare
+ Sicilian No Cristina Guardiano
  Words: vìtti i/ssi tri kkàni
  Gloss: I.saw theMP/thoseMP three dogMP
  Translation: I saw the/those three dogs
  Contributor: Cristina Guardiano
  Words: vìtti (a) ttri kkàni
  Gloss: I.saw (to) three dogMP
  Translation: I saw three dogs
  Contributor: Cristina Guardiano
   Skou No Mark Donohue
   Spanish No Victoria Mateu
+ Swedish No fredrik heinat
  Words: Det är tre kakor i burken. / De tre kakorna är i burken..
  Gloss: There are three cookie.PL in jar.DEF / the three cookie.PL.DEF are in jar.DEF
  Translation: there are three cookies in the jar. / The three cookis are in the jar.
  Comment: There is no difference in plural marking on definite and indefinite nouns.
  Contributor: fredrik heinat
   Swiss German No Cecile Meier
+ Tagalog No Edith Aldridge Both definite and indefinite NPs can take the plural marker 'mga'. But the plural marker does not generally co-occur with a numeral. If it does, then a proximate reading is obtained instead of plurality.
  Words: Na-ka-kita=ako nang mga sampu-ng bata.
  Gloss: PERF-INTR-see=1S.ABS OBL PL 10-LK child
  Translation: I saw approximately 10 children.
  Comment: If the plural marker precedes the numeral, then a proximate reading obtains.
  Contributor: Edith Aldridge
  Words: Na-ka-kita=ako nang sampu-ng bata.
  Gloss: PERF-INTR-see=1S.ABS OBL 10-LK child
  Translation: I saw ten children.
  Contributor: Edith Aldridge
  Words: Na-ka-kita=ako nang sampu-ng mga bata.
  Gloss: PERF-INTR-see=1S.ABS OBL 10-LK PL child
  Translation: I saw ten kids.
  Comment: If the plural marker follows the number, then the plural reading obtains.
  Contributor: Edith Aldridge
   Taiwanese Southern Min No Arthur Wang
+ Teramano No Iara Mantenuto
  Words: so maɲatə li/ʃti tre pizzə
  Gloss: I.am eaten theMP/theseMP three pizzaMP
  Translation: I ate the/these three pizzas
  Contributor: Iara Mantenuto
   Thai NA Peter Jenks
   Tommo-So No Laura McPherson
   Triqui, Copala No George Aaron Broadwell
   Tukang Besi No Mark Donohue
   Tuki (Tukombo) No Edmond Biloa
   Tupi (Ancient) No Fabricio M. F. Gerardi
   Turkish No Murat Kural no plural marker occurs with numerals with or without definiteness. Plural is only allowed if there is no numeral
   Tuvan No Mark Donohue
   Twi No Cansada Martin
   Ukrainian No Roksolana Mykhaylyk
   Vata No Hilda Koopman
   Vietnamese No Binh Ngo
   Vlaški-Žejanski-Istro-Romanian No Zvjezdana Vrzic
   West Flemish No Liliane Haegeman
   Western Armenian Yes Hrayr Khanjian
   Wolof Yes Mariame Sy
   Wuhu Chinese No Zhuo Chen
   Xhosa No Xiujie Ma
   Yémba No Elsie Mawamba
   Yawa No Mark Donohue
   Yoruba No Johnson Folorunso Ilori
   Zamboageño Chabacano No Grace Gaspardo
   Zulu No Claire Halpert